Franklin Merrell-Wolff distinguishes his orientation to the yoga of knowledge from that of Brugh Joy's orientation to Zen Buddhism. He also points out that Dr. Joy's orientation is more to the heart chakra whereas his is to the sahasrara above the head. He then makes a distinction between the Vedantic position regarding the nature of the Self and Brahman in contrast to the non-theistic doctrine of Buddhism. Wolff goes on to differentiate between the derivative reality of the subject to consciousness and the object of consciousness and the permanent reality of the Consciousness itself. He asserts that the capstone of his work is that he arrived at the same logical pattern found in Buddhism and in the Advaita Vedanta and that his philosophy occupies a position intermediate between the two. He then outlines his Realization that appearance is inversely proportional to ponderability, and suggests how this relates to the integration of Shankara's Vedantic orientation to Brahman, Ashvaghosha's Buddhistic orientation to Suchness, and his own orientation to Consciousness-without-an-object-and-without-a-subject. Note: because of the poor quality of this recording, Wolff re-recorded it using a transcript of this talk; the second recording is dated 15 February 1980.